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00:00:02 Speaker 2
Your husband selling, selling the stock for the for the radio station, going out on the street and selling it.
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What was it for a dollar A.
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Share or something to get get it going.
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That’s right. That’s right.
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Are there?
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And Jamie was telling me here one time that you know that over the years he’s been gradually, you know, finding some of the people who still had some of the stock and and everything in there must be quite a project going back 50 years.
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It is. It was.
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But the money part doesn’t interest me very much.
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Not that I have it.
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But it just enriches me, big buddy.
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I always I’m always interested in in the way things start and evolve and and that kind of thing here.
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Yeah, but that’s very nice because.
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There’s a lot it was.
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The Old West was still here.
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When we came.
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And the spirit.
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Was here.
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You know.
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Spirit of ill helping the other fellow.
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When did when did that sort of spirit begin to begin to fade away?
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Do you remember?
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After the last war, I guess this seemed to disappear.
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When the populations start to grow.
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I know.
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I can’t remember what year it is, but Jimmy can help them there.
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There was a big meeting.
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In Quebec, with that big hotel down there.
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Go back.
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I can’t remember right now, I.
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Know it’s been.
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Anyway, the radio beating.
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And the.
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He was a director, so this help broke down and I couldn’t let him go because I couldn’t send both of them.
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Down there.
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Because Jimmy had to run the show when Jimmy.
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They were having trouble on the sales with their apples.
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So they got the catch word.
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Made-up catcher.
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Center ground around the center pounder on the ground.
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Right.
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If you heard that.
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He decided that the east didn’t know what real apples were.
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So when he went down to this meeting, he gathered up.
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He had the Packers put up.
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Oh, I don’t know how many boxes they were, quite big boxes.
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And those big wooden boxes.
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And they had them put up.
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And the best they have.
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And he took them down to this.
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Big dinner with all these radio beds from all over the map.
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Some of the States and so on and so forth.
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They had them put on the table.
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For the this big dinner they were having the radio bed and he had them all polished and everything and put them down, the said to them the long tables.
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In this hotel.
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The east went crazy about it.
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And then they got the idea of putting up packages.
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And sending to the agents.
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That would be New York and Chicago those days, all over the map.
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To advertise.
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That helped.
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He was always full of beads.
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The old heads grows all the time.
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Tap the ballet a lot.
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Yeah, promotion promotion was always a big a big part of the broadcasting then as it is now, I think too.
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Yes, hold this down.
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Do you listen to very much radio anymore?
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Very little.
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The music and that sort of thing just aren’t familiar anymore.
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Well, once in a while they’ll hit on a tuned.
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Take my sad statement.
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The civil were brought up in the different area.
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And what the truthful?
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To the young people would be attuned to me at all.
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Just a noise.
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Cool, I know.
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No, that’s that’s taste change.
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You know we, you know, we always we’re always evolving, you know into something else.
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Yeah, somewhere along the line.
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Yeah, that’s true, but.
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I’ll just turn it off for a moment here.
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It’s Jim, Jim Bernier.
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Good, Jamie.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Which birthday was that? The 20th or 21st? 25th. He couldn’t be there.
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OK.
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For the night.
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And somebody sent them this.
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It’s excellent.
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It’s excellent. It’s really nice.
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I don’t know I can book.
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I forgot the phone today now.
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Cartoons, you know?
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You’re making yourself some tea.
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And fill the valley.
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I would I’m digging one day.
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See I catch that one makes quite a weak.
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Right.
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The doctor that.
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You would have to take when they got.
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It didn’t.
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Oh good so.
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They got merged together though.
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Because I have motion hospital.
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But he was fully out of it.
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And I was walking over to the hospital.
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In the same boat didn’t have work and I recognized right away.
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That it was.
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I could tell because of the bark.
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So I kept.
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On going and when I got to the hospital a week before I got my doctor told him what had happened.
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And he says, well, when me and leave.
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Jim, he says.
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Go home, pack your bag.
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Get back here.
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So we both came out of their wheelchairs.
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Good gosh.
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That was.
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I guess it was.
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I told them, I said.
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Hector, I said.
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You’ve got to Get Me Out.
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I see your cat.
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Maybe do it in 10 days, I said.
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When Jim.
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Where do you think you’ll be?
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Always is actually probably 10 days.
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Or two weeks.
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Well, I said.
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You have to.
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You have to cut it off.
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Don’t bother about it.
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I said as long as.
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I get it.
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So why?
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I came home with them.
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We came here together.
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You had one, yeah.
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At home.
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Jimmy mentioned that she’d worked for you for 40 years.
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Or 30 years or something.
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The boy is treated like a dog.
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Said Joseph. Very nearly.
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Did she come to to Kelowna during the war or after the war?
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Oh, she was bored here.
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Well, she was oh.
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She’s 50.
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7 now.
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She became with me when she was.
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Oh so.
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She’s been with you.
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All of her life, then, that’s.
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Yes, because I had doubts full.
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Of sick people I had my.
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Husband in bed.
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My father.
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And my nephew.
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Hide them on the House.
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And they had pushed belts, or has their bedroom?
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Oh my gosh.
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And she got to the stage where she could.
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Take care of them.
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Your normal daytime off now.
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That I could have a sleep.
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That I took the night.
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Tonight the phone.
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The bells were reading all night.
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Every verse nurse, sick people have the.
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No, no, I haven’t yet.
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But I I figure someday I may have to look after my.
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Father, I don’t know.
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You never know.
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He lives down in Texas, but you know.
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I I see the pressures of, you know, of Big city life, you know, wearing, wearing them down, you know, every year slowing down a little bit, you know, I know at some point you myself will probably go one you know.
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He’s 62 now.
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And he hasn’t retired yet.
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He says he won’t retire maybe until next year.
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But I figure once he retires, that’s going to that’s going to slowing down.
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That will slow down.
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Considerably for a while and lose it.
00:11:22 Speaker 2
I’ve seen that happen with my aunts and.
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In people over the years.
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And your people are still down there.
00:11:31 Speaker 2
Yeah, they come up quite often, but.
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All right.
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Yeah, they like Canada.
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You’re lucky to have some.
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I think so, yes.
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Yeah, sit down at this table.
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OK.
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So I sit here.
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I had an idea.
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That was just.
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To keep for profit.
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I made the progress when I was married.
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And I stuck with it.
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For better or for worse, that’s not good.
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The little guy.
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That’s funny.
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But it’s it’s the way.
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We kind of value.
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People should be anybody you know.
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As the.
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I’ve been down there.
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I’ve been I’ve been married 10 years.
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Now you have.
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OK.
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Actually, it would be 1111 years next month.
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Because it always blocks.
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You know sadness.
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In life, but you know.
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So it makes life interesting.
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Which might be alright.
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A never ending story.
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That’s why I like being.
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A writer because you know as.
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A writer I get to watch like.
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You know, and and listen to people.
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And and that kind of thing, people are fascinating.
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Infinitely more fascinating to me than.
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You know the machines or anything else?
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A different temperament to his dad.
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You are a worldly boy.
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It’s going to allow the rain.
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And yet, gyms have a variety.
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You like milk cream beer?
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This is the fastest way.
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It’s about help yourself.
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For that.
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Don’t give me.
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A bag of animals.
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I’ll tell you a funny story about.
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Listening to the Radio One day.
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The old days, that’s the other house.
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And he had the stable for the horses.
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And they had a a big pasture with all his horses.
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And and this one horse he had broken.
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He brought it in from the hills.
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He used to be a lot of horses.
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English people had bought.
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They’re precious horses with them and they come out to.
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The country.
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All the fancy horses.
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Racers and and.
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Jump losing all the rest of it.
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These horses went back at the hills and bred with the Wilder horses you see.
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And so there was some lovely quarter horses around.
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Well, he’d been out.
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He’d got one pop, two or three, and and he.
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But he hadn’t got around to getting much beyond the rope around the neck and leaving it.
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He got, he got head, got to the stage where he could back it up to do all.
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The things that it should but.
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I’ve forgotten that dad had to go to Cambridge.
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Sun radio business.
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And so they went off early in the morning and.
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They wouldn’t be home tonight, so Jimmy said.
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Would you mind giving the horses a drink?
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It was cold out.
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The whole taps were closed off because of the ice.
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Thank you dear.
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I I was thinking about listening, listening to something I would say come here.
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I wish to listen.
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That’s what I had to do.
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Listen to see.
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There was many mistakes so.
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We got them with, they got away.
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Here. All right.
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And then.
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One this one horse.
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It was getting quite familiar because I’d come to the back door, you see, and I’d see it and.
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I had spoke to him and I always talked to it.
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I had talked to him and wanting another, and the beast was.
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He just left a long rope on this horse so that it could wander anywhere, and the place could be all locked up in the fences and everything.
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About 5:00, o’clock in the afternoon.
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I heard a hammering on the door.
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You know, I can’t say.
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Listen to the radio.
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So I went to the back.
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And it’s a porch.
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And then you can’t one door that way.
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You came in that way.
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And this was the kitchen door in here.
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Sewer ports and other ports, and then they came.
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With the house.
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And that was the horse having on the door.
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I opened the door and realized that there was water tight, so I grabbed 2 tin pails you see.
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They took and rushed into the kitchen pot and turned the taps on.
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You know, they make an awful noise.
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Want to go ahead full force?
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Oh, the sudden.
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I thought my elbow got turned around, but and the darn horse had followed me in.
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And he’s had a tough time coming in the two doors, I guess, but I didn’t hear him.
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But I listened to the radio.
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I gave drink.
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I gave more drink and I gave more drink.
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And then I thought, no, what happened?
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How do I got about?
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Well, of course he couldn’t back up.
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Kitchen work.
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That’s why this is true.
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There was a kitchen table or fashion kitchen table in the middle.
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Though I tried to pull a boat that way.
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He sat at.
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The table I thought the table would break.
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Well, it was an old fashioned.
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Wooden pitching cold stove, you know.
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So I dragged them around, finally got them around.
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And then when we come to go through this big dining room.
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He sat on the stove.
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Because he jumped.
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So I jump.
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Two, please be the other way.
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But it didn’t kick me and it placed me at all.
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Well, I had to drag him through this long driving room out through a little reception hall.
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Wouldn’t have been.
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Small will neither.
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And out the front door.
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Cross and veranda, down steps.
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What I don’t know how many times from the kitchen to this dining room was a step one step.
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I had knocked.
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I’m getting up that step.
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And then I got him through the dining room doors out this other room.
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To the reception.
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From like a hallway.
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And then.
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I had to drag him through the other door.
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To the brand.
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And down.
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Four steps are taken.
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Wouldn’t stab him.
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But I never had at the time of.
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My life.
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Hi, guys.
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I managed logging kicked.
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That’s that’s really something.
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But the course was the funniest thing ever.
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Side your life.
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Are we cut under that?
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I don’t know.
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And you said you said your your son had only had him for a very short time, so he wasn’t.
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He wasn’t like he was.
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An old part of the family or anything.
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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No. Isn’t that funny? What was his name? What was the horse’s name? Did it have one?
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At least it didn’t blaze any trails through your house.
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Well, I had.
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To go please, I just left the radio and went out.
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And gave the gave the horses in the in the barn you see.
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Had to drink those off.
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It was lifestyle to that part.
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You were.
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You were saying the other day.
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That was it, your husband or your son was working on the air at the radio station.
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And the policeman came in and told him his house.
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Was on.
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Who was that?
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Your son or your father or your husband?
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Your husband.
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Oh my gosh.
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A ***** cursed jumped up and.
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He yelled over my hair since my house is on fire.
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And left and just this place down a rat.
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Oh my gosh.
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The policeman drove him home when he got home.
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At the House when it caught fire.
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Oh, how did?
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How did?
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How did the fire start?
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But it was the old house there.
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We don’t know.
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We haven’t any idea.
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Must have been a faulty chimney.
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It was an electric heat that another space.
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But you know everything like that and.
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It was so cold.
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I was.
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I couldn’t get the kitchen door being on the stove.
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And the Jimmy was sitting on the table.
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Sitting on the table where I was told she was.
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To keep warm.
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You need a bowl of.
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Soup and I have to look out.
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With a little hole, run the frost.
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And I said, Jimmy, is that smoke up there?
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He looked up and didn’t say anything, just jumped down out the door.
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He says mother gets some warm clothes on quick, he says.
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And and.
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Get outside.
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At the meantime, he was at the phone.
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Maybe the fire brigade?
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And the Fire brigade came up Pandosy St.
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leading down to the lake, you see.
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It’s up with locks down.
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The Fire brigade came with the put the hose out.
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Bend enough holes on pandosy St.
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So then they had to pull dead another hose for that time the.
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House, we thought.
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Oh, what a shame.
00:26:23 Speaker 1
A lot of mementos. Paintings.
00:26:28 Speaker 1
Everything is just what we could save in the house and time.
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What a shame.
00:26:41 Speaker 3
Do you know, Mrs.
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Over on the other side of.
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The lake over there.
00:26:48 Speaker 1
I don’t know which one here.
00:26:50 Speaker 2
She’s the Mrs.
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She lives over on.
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Just off Bear Lake on the West Side Rd.
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I’ve heard the name, but I can’t face you now.
00:26:59 Speaker 2
Under there.
00:27:02 Speaker 2
Because I think she’s about your age and she’s been here, you know, she’s been here a long time.
00:27:05 Speaker 2
I don’t think.
00:27:05 Speaker 2
She’s been here as.
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Long as you have, but she lives alone down.
00:27:08 Speaker 2
In the lake as well.
00:27:09 Speaker 2
And she’s been there for.
00:27:11 Speaker 2
I don’t know, 40 years, 50 years someplace, something like that, quite a while.
00:27:12 Speaker 1
Yeah, I know the Navy and I’m probably lower my.
00:27:19 Speaker 1
Could see her and.
00:27:21 Speaker 1
At dinner.
00:27:25 Speaker 2
Her son works for.
00:27:27 Speaker 2
The Agricultural research station down at down at Summerland.
00:27:32 Speaker 2
His name is John John Kitson and he travels around all over the world doing agricultural experiments and that sort of thing.
00:27:45 Speaker 2
Were you glad to see Jamie get into the business?
00:27:50 Speaker 1
Well, I’m glad he was able to at the moment.
00:27:59
I think.
00:28:03 Speaker 1
Jim was always he doesn’t like talking.
00:28:08 Speaker 1
Never did.
00:28:14 Speaker 1
I never forget that you get help.
00:28:20 Speaker 1
Thank you.
00:28:24 Speaker 1
With the.
00:28:25 Speaker 1
For the Bears and took the bear back at to Ottawa and how to get there.
00:28:31 Speaker 1
Airport going.
00:28:34
You know.
00:28:36 Speaker 1
And of course, when they came to the big opening.
00:28:41 Speaker 1
And now?
00:28:45 Speaker 1
Business people and the.
00:28:47 Speaker 1
And the.
00:28:50 Speaker 1
I don’t know who was out somebody somewhere.
00:28:58 Speaker 1
And the.
00:29:02 Speaker 1
Time for the congratulations and so on.
00:29:08 Speaker 1
For the work you know.
00:29:10 Speaker 1
And the ***** didn’t.
00:29:13 Speaker 1
In the final analysis, though.
00:29:18 Speaker 1
He does, baby.
00:29:20 Speaker 1
They thought of hiding in the plane so he wouldn’t have to.
00:29:27 Speaker 2
So he didn’t. So Jim never did very much on air work. Then we’ll see just the engineering. Jamie’s dad.
00:29:41 Speaker 1
In the early days.
00:29:43 Speaker 1
We had quite a nice voice that.
00:29:46 Speaker 1
Was really good.
00:29:52 Speaker 1
Ohh yes it is.
00:29:57 Speaker 2
And you never had any, any desire to.
00:30:00 Speaker 2
Do it now.
00:30:03 Speaker 1
Matter of fact, I’d be careful living under here.
00:30:08 Speaker 2
That’s what I was going to ask you were there?
00:30:09 Speaker 2
Were there ever very many women involved in broadcasting or has it always been a man’s?
00:30:14 Speaker 2
Basically a man’s field.
00:30:17 Speaker 1
Mostly a man.
00:30:18 Speaker 2
We’ll see you, man.
00:30:26 Speaker 1
No, I can’t say that then.
00:30:28 Speaker 1
I’m partial to it because I don’t think our voices are fitted for it.
00:30:34 Speaker 1
It’s not the depth to.
00:30:47 Speaker 1
Not the clarity somehow.
00:30:52 Speaker 1
You think about it.
00:30:53 Speaker 2
Well, some women are good.
00:30:54 Speaker 2
Have you ever heard Barbara from the CBC?
00:30:58 Speaker 2
She she has a program called. As it happens, she’s had it now for maybe 10-10 years or something.
00:31:04 Speaker 2
Very fine woman broadcaster, yeah.
00:31:08 Speaker 2
But there aren’t that many.
00:31:10 Speaker 2
You know that that, that, that go that far, you know, and become national national network people.
00:31:15 Speaker 3
In there.
00:31:17 Speaker 2
Oh, that’s very that’s really true.
00:31:18 Speaker 1
No, I didn’t.
00:31:21 Speaker 2
I see.
00:31:22 Speaker 2
I saw a plate up there with a with a horse on it.
00:31:25 Speaker 2
Do you?
00:31:25 Speaker 2
Did you ride very much as a girl?
00:31:29 Speaker 1
Not a great deal, I.
00:31:32 Speaker 1
First time I rode.
00:31:37 Speaker 1
When I was out in Vancouver in 1900 and.
00:31:42 Speaker 1
What about you?
00:31:44 Speaker 1
For flight and holiday.
00:31:51 Speaker 1
Took seven days to come from Toronto.
00:31:55 Speaker 2
Is that by train?
00:31:58 Speaker 2
Boy, that must have been an interesting trip.
00:32:00 Speaker 1
That is.
00:32:02 Speaker 2
Did did the train go straight through or does it did?
00:32:04 Speaker 2
It stop.
00:32:11 Speaker 1
We’re getting out Winnipeg.
00:32:13 Speaker 1
Stayed there a week locally.
00:32:18 Speaker 1
And be standing alone together.
00:32:21 Speaker 1
I would love the land.
00:32:25 Speaker 1
There was no tilted.
00:32:27 Speaker 1
They want to see me.
00:32:30 Speaker 1
Other add to Vancouver.
00:32:34 Speaker 1
Named after.
00:32:37 Speaker 2
What is your first name?
00:32:40 Speaker 1
GERDINE.
00:32:47 Speaker 1
DRY.
00:32:50 Speaker 1
PHENA tafida.
00:32:55 Speaker 3
15 oh.
00:32:57 Speaker 3
That’s a beautiful name.
00:32:57 Speaker 1
13 trifekta the devil here sits in both room.
00:33:02 Speaker 2
I know that’s a nice name.
00:33:06 Speaker 1
You’ll find trifinio and truffles in the Bible someplace.
00:33:11 Speaker 1
I guess we want to go far enough back.
00:33:19 Speaker 1
Imagine bubbly Greek.
00:33:23 Speaker 2
MHM. Sounds.
00:33:25 Speaker 1
Sounds very Greek.
00:33:27 Speaker 1
Yeah, long, long way back.
00:33:30 Speaker 2
It could even be Hebrew, maybe really a long way back.
00:33:35 Speaker 1
To feed into frozen.
00:33:39 Speaker 1
A lot much.
00:33:43 Speaker 1
What could change?
00:33:45 Speaker 2
You were saying you’re young.
00:33:46 Speaker 2
Your young brother was out here and he’s 80 years old.
00:33:50 Speaker 2
Where does he live?
00:33:52 Speaker 1
Salt Spring island.
00:33:53 Speaker 2
Oh, that’s beautiful.
00:33:55 Speaker 2
That’s beautiful up there.
00:33:57 Speaker 1
He has a.
00:33:59 Speaker 1
The whole right up on the.
00:34:01 Speaker 1
And the.
00:34:03 Speaker 1
North End of the island.
00:34:07 Speaker 3
That’s lovely.
00:34:09 Speaker 2
Do you ever get?
00:34:10 Speaker 2
Do you get over to?
00:34:11 Speaker 2
Visit him very often or.
00:34:14 Speaker 1
Oh, they’re so, so similar.
00:34:15 Speaker 1
With that there.
00:34:17 Speaker 1
I can’t take it.
00:34:20 Speaker 1
I won’t go.
00:34:23 Speaker 2
You like your your privacy and your peace and quiet out here.
00:34:25 Speaker 3
I guess it’s lovely.
00:34:30 Speaker 1
I can’t take it because it’s also very social.
00:34:36 Speaker 1
You wouldn’t think so, would you?
00:34:38 Speaker 3
No, no.
00:34:40 Speaker 1
But there’s dinners and and.
00:34:45 Speaker 1
I don’t know.
00:34:47 Speaker 1
Something goes on every day.
00:34:52 Speaker 2
Sounds like a.
00:34:53 Speaker 1
Nothing. Nothing.
00:34:53 Speaker 2
Very close knit.
00:34:58 Speaker 1
Startling, you know.
00:35:01 Speaker 1
But I suppose it but that is a Rooney.
00:35:27 Speaker 1
That’s the main thing.
00:35:31 Speaker 1
Try to keep other people.
00:35:37 Speaker 1
Jim’s quite a worry.
00:35:41 Speaker 2
And as to be expected, you know.
00:35:54 Speaker 1
The arthritis, of course, because his dad’s condition.
00:36:00 Speaker 1
I realized that.
00:36:03 Speaker 1
Why I didn’t try to bring them a big family.
00:36:08 Speaker 2
Mr. Red Terry.
00:36:18 Speaker 2
Was Jamie going to get married?
00:36:19 Speaker 2
One of.
00:36:20 Speaker 2
These days I don’t know.
00:36:23 Speaker 2
You know, I haven’t seen him.
00:36:24 Speaker 2
Haven’t seen him latch on to a girl yet.
00:36:26 Speaker 2
Or a girl latch onto him.
00:36:28 Speaker 1
Oh, I see.
00:36:31 Speaker 1
Yeah, very far.
00:36:32 Speaker 1
But I was bust.
00:36:37
He sets his.
00:36:38 Speaker 2
Sets his standards pretty high.
00:36:40 Speaker 1
Doesn’t he?
00:36:41 Speaker 1
I don’t know whether he does with his girls.
00:36:44 Speaker 1
Or not but.
00:36:47 Speaker 1
I’ve met.
00:36:48 Speaker 1
I’ve always thrown the house open to them, you know, all the way through.
00:36:56 Speaker 1
In fact, I’ve had.
00:36:59 Speaker 1
Turning the boys in here in his teens.
00:37:07 Speaker 1
For breakfast, things like that.
00:37:09 Speaker 1
You know, we all sleep out here in the sand, in the shack or there all that kind of thing.
00:37:20 Speaker 1
They couldn’t see out this.
00:37:24 Speaker 1
The breakfast.
00:37:27 Speaker 1
Pleased to see the ball.
00:37:30 Speaker 1
And then when he got to the girls stayed in bed.
00:37:34 Speaker 1
Girls who come in.
00:37:39 Speaker 1
Houses. I was open to.
00:37:45 Speaker 2
And so that’s a good way to be.
00:37:47 Speaker 1
You know how kids like hot buttons and things like that.
00:37:52 Speaker 1
You know, with that mom.
00:38:02 Speaker 2
What would be another another good day for me to come out maybe and talk to you again?
00:38:07 Speaker 2
Because I’d like to, I’d like to talk to.
00:38:09 Speaker 2
You two or three times if it’s all possible.
00:38:15 Speaker 1
What would you?
00:38:18 Speaker 1
What do you want there?
00:38:20 Speaker 2
Well, I’m.
00:38:20 Speaker 2
I’m trying to get little stories like like, like the ones you told me today.
00:38:24 Speaker 2
You know, like the ones with the horses and the one about the.
00:38:28 Speaker 1
That just doesn’t do it station.
00:38:30 Speaker 2
Yeah, it does.
00:38:31 Speaker 2
It’s all part of it’s all part of the history.
00:38:33 Speaker 2
It’s it’s part of the color and things that go in around it.
00:38:36 Speaker 2
And sometimes, and sometimes, when you start talking about one of those, you also remember another one.
00:38:40 Speaker 2
You know something that’s related.
00:38:42 Speaker 2
To it.
00:38:42 Speaker 2
So you know, I would just like to just collect as many of these little stories as I can.
00:38:47 Speaker 2
Along the line, and someday you’ll remember some stories and other days you’ll probably remember, remember others.
00:38:53 Speaker 2
And if you don’t mind, I wouldn’t mind talking to you.
00:38:56 Speaker 2
Maybe two or three times and then we can get, you know, get the.
00:38:58 Speaker 2
Whole thing down and there’s close weekend.
00:39:00 Speaker 1
Well, I didn’t think you’d want that much, I thought, well, they have a page.
00:39:02 Speaker 2
Oh yeah.
00:39:04 Speaker 2
All the whole works.
00:39:05 Speaker 2
Whole work we want.
00:39:06 Speaker 2
I want to write the.
00:39:07 Speaker 2
Best story I can in there.
00:39:07 Speaker 1
But listen, dear.
00:39:10 Speaker 1
Jim is the one I think.
00:39:12 Speaker 2
OK.
00:39:15 Speaker 1
As soon as I can get up.
00:39:16 Speaker 1
In the attic.
00:39:19 Speaker 1
He bought.
00:39:20 Speaker 1
He brought me back down the ladder yesterday.
00:39:26 Speaker 1
And I have.
00:39:30 Speaker 1
All papers.
00:39:40 Speaker 1
I think I had a lot of radio papers.
00:39:45 Speaker 1
Uh in that?
00:39:48 Speaker 1
But I’m not sure.
00:39:57 Speaker 1
I’ll have a look and see what I’ve got and.
00:40:00 Speaker 1
Have something that will interest you.
00:40:03 Speaker 1
With those those things, I can give you that I’ve given you.
00:40:14 Speaker 2
Now there’s see there are certain areas of the of the stations history that I know.
00:40:19 Speaker 2
And but then there’s all the very specific details.
00:40:22 Speaker 2
It’s the the moments that you know that that you, as someone who was around the station, would have, you know, would have known.
00:40:28 Speaker 2
And those are the kinds of things that I would like to look at.
00:40:33 Speaker 2
Especially those early years, those really early years in there you know are are really so.
00:40:39 Speaker 2
Are so important to the whole story.
00:40:43 Speaker 2
In there.
00:40:44 Speaker 2
You I maybe next time, you know, we could talk about some of the other charitable, charitable things the station did the IT was a March of Dimes.
00:40:55 Speaker 2
Promotion for quite a number of years as well.
00:40:58 Speaker 2
You know, we could talk about that.
00:40:59 Speaker 2
Maybe we could talk.
00:41:00 Speaker 2
There’s quite a number of other areas that I wouldn’t.
00:41:01 Speaker 2
Mind touching on if you’re if you’re up to it.
00:41:08 Speaker 1
I don’t know.
00:41:09 Speaker 1
Jim should give you figure something that I want.
00:41:11 Speaker 3
Oh, OK.
00:41:14 Speaker 2
OK.
00:41:15 Speaker 2
Well, maybe, maybe.
00:41:16 Speaker 2
What I should?
00:41:16 Speaker 2
Do is.
00:41:16 Speaker 1
That would.
00:41:21 Speaker 2
Yeah, or crippled children.
00:41:24 Speaker 2
Or maybe it was from.
00:41:24 Speaker 2
OK, you’re right.
00:41:26 Speaker 1
I think it was milk from Britain.
00:41:30 Speaker 2
And then there were there were the school broadcasts.
00:41:34 Speaker 1
Oh yes.
00:41:35 Speaker 2
That were originated here at one time and.
00:41:38 Speaker 2
They were, you know, the little areas like that that I would.
00:41:41 Speaker 2
Like to.
00:41:42 Speaker 1
But he used.
00:41:42 Speaker 1
Just big Tim.
00:41:45 Speaker 1
This I was telling you about the.
00:41:53 Speaker 1
That he used to amuse the children.
00:41:55 Speaker 1
He thinks him the the children all called him Daddy to him.
00:42:03 Speaker 1
They hadn’t thought of Mr.
00:42:04 Speaker 1
He was daddy Jim.
00:42:09 Speaker 1
Around town.
00:42:11 Speaker 2
It must, it must have really been something.
00:42:13 Speaker 1
Yes, he was.
00:42:17 Speaker 1
And he used to entertain the children.
00:42:20 Speaker 1
In the mornings during this epidemic.
00:42:26 Speaker 1
Keep quiet and keep them in the house.
00:42:33 Speaker 1
He thought of everything that was.
00:42:35 Speaker 1
That way inclined you see.
00:42:40 Speaker 1
He could do some good somewhere.
00:42:46 Speaker 1
What was it?
00:42:51 Speaker 1
Big Jim was a funny man.
00:42:54 Speaker 1
He had the old system of.
00:42:57 Speaker 1
Never let a bow down.
00:43:03 Speaker 1
Whether you went without anything to eat or not.
00:43:07 Speaker 1
That that was.
00:43:09 Speaker 1
His idea of life but never let it pass.
00:43:15 Speaker 2
That’s the way to build lasting friendships.
00:43:25 Speaker 2
OK, I think I’ll.
00:43:27 Speaker 2
I’ll leave you leave you to.
00:43:28 Speaker 1
It. Yes. All right, dear.
00:43:30 Speaker 2
I thank you very much.
00:43:34 Speaker 1
Used to have a a cooking session with him in the morning one time.
00:43:41 Speaker 1
And to get nice recipes and and to see the on he play for her and the seagull on with these recipes.
00:43:53 Speaker 1
And there was a lot of laughing and joking in between.
00:43:56 Speaker 1
You know, you never know what this fellow was going to do in the meantime or what he was going.
00:44:01 Speaker 1
To say.
00:44:04 Speaker 1
That was a big joke all the time in the mornings used to entertain quite nicely.
00:44:15 Speaker 1
And then there’s the the musicians that used to come in in the first part of the station.
00:44:30 Speaker 1
It was.
00:44:32 Speaker 1
If Jim, Jimmy can tell you more about that, that was.
00:44:41 Speaker 1
Hey, daddy.
00:44:44 Speaker 1
I think his name was Bill.
00:44:46 Speaker 1
They both, as Bell was a wonderful violinist, she could have gone a long, long way.
00:44:59 Speaker 1
And then there were some people from Vernon used to come down once a week.
00:45:13 Speaker 1
At the Kirk family had an orchestra of their own.
00:45:19 Speaker 1
That was a little different though.
00:45:27 Speaker 1
They always prayed as a family.
00:45:37 Speaker 1
112.
00:45:38 Speaker 1
Or better.
00:45:43 Speaker 1
Very well, the violence.
00:45:48 Speaker 1
And the mother was a pianist.
00:45:51 Speaker 1
One blazer should travel.
00:45:57 Speaker 1
I forgot what the other boys played.
00:45:59 Speaker 1
They were all something.
00:46:03 Speaker 1
And then.
00:46:05 Speaker 1
We had the neighbor, Jerry Price.
00:46:09 Speaker 1
He was known.
00:46:12 Speaker 1
Across the country.
00:46:16 Speaker 1
Teddy Boyd.
00:46:19 Speaker 1
They had some nice voices.
00:46:27 Speaker 2
Those sound like exciting days, I guess.
00:46:28 Speaker 1
Though they were exciting days, much more fun to think than statistics.
Part 2
Transcript
00:00:02 Speaker 1
And I.
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And the New Year’s program had to go on.
00:00:07 Speaker 1
I had always been with.
00:00:08 Speaker 1
Him on New Years.
00:00:10 Speaker 2
How many years was that a tradition?
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Shouldn’t die in 54.
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But for that he was ill for bullying year and came New Year’s.
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So he was in hospital.
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He was very, very ill.
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I went up to see a bit before I went up to the station.
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And I didn’t know.
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Whether I’d get back in time, I thought.
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But I went down.
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And I told the young people.
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And I went down with the New Year for the.
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Show and the show has.
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To go on.
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So that’s what he always said that because he wasn’t sober.
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When did you come here?
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May the 4th, 1914.
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And where did you come?
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From Vancouver here.
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Were you born in?
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No, I haven’t born in Toronto.
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So you’re you’re a native Canadian native.
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Everything in there where where about your husband?
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Where did he come from?
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He came from.
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And what was his family’s background?
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It goes.
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I don’t didn’t know too much about it.
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As a matter of fact, before I could get to it.
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All his people had died, so I missed out there.
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Yeah, that’s the history.
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Tracing history sometimes is very difficult.
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Yes it is.
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I went trying to trace my own family.
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History this past summer and I managed to trace it back to 1830.
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And I found that my family name is spelled about 15 different ways back in Ireland.
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Is that so?
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So you are Irish.
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Yeah, I’ve got that part of it traced down all the county, County Cork.
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I can’t record.
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Yeah, well, mine is.
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I’m half, Scott.
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By fathers.
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People were Scott, but he was born in England.
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The other side, my mother’s side.
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Her father was French.
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And he was.
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But he was born in England.
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He was left.
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Maid that came with the wife and the father.
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Went to Africa.
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His his father.
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For grandfather’s brother, he went to Africa and the wife came to England to have her baby.
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And then.
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The maid suddenly left.
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And she went back to France and left him.
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He was baptized in the Roman Catholic Church.
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I know that.
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And he was.
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And when this old old lady and her old lady took care of she had baptized in the Anglican church.
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So half of 1 and six of.
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The other yes, by by that grandmother was English.
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So while I am, I don’t.
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Know, oh, you’re Canadian.
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So you came here in May of 1919, fourteen, looking at your window right now, do you see anything that was there in 1914 other than the mountains?
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Oh yes, there’s lots of things.
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Oh, this part wasn’t developed at all.
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Down here very much it was.
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A lot of big farms, you know cattle and that sort of thing had the.
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Of of one or two orchards, I think.
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But I came to Rutland to begin with.
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And it wasn’t very big.
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With the radio station.
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31.
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I’ve forgotten the exact figures.
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But the population was very small.
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But 3000 nasty.
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Actually, put that in a in a in one block.
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Well, it wasn’t very big because the, the, the two wars.
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And there had been too many people anyway.
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In Rutland because.
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A lot lot of English.
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Bachelors, young bachelors.
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Had come out to this country and a lot of them were military men.
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And the in the first war.
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We were living in Rutland.
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So when war broke out, my my husband, being an Englishman and wanted to go badly.
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They wouldn’t take him.
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The trouble was getting.
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Getting it to all these other chaps that he knew.
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Army men and he knew the arrangements and all about them and so on and so forth.
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But they could.
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He couldn’t.
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We had to.
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Get fellows to go up and back in the hills and that sort of thing above and there.
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And to tell these fellas and of course they came down.
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And they’re.
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Next day, they shot one another’s dogs. They all had dogs, cats, things. But their wives, he with them had wives, so they caved down and.
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On their horses rode down.
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And they.
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Went around to the other fellas.
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Eventually we got worried.
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They went around to the other fellas.
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They knew that were military men and they shot were and other dogs and things like that.
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But they bought their horses down.
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They turned them loose.
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Of course, there were a lot of wild horses in those days.
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To the health, they turned them loose.
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And they left all their.
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Hardness in this acts and whatnot hanging in the barn.
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Very few of them came back.
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Because they would.
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A lot of those taps.
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It took cattle boots back into all kinds of things to get over there to the old man.
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What did? How did?
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Or what did you do during the war?
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B. The first world.
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What? What was?
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What was life like here in Kelowna during the?
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First row one.
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Well, the majority of people were very busy.
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All the women were all knitting socks and doing things like that, you know, and those were people that liked theater work like my husband.
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They were all busy putting on shows and and.
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Collecting for the Red Cross and the Salvation Army and so on.
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So forth and.
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Getting all the old clothes they could find said no.
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What sort of shows were they putting on?
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All anything and everything.
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They were my husband was.
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A children anyway.
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He faded most to he understood the state, the stage of the workings and all that kind.
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Of thing sounds like a lot.
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Of fun.
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Oh, it was a lot of fun.
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Yeah, but they they did very well.
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And they took care of.
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That way.
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Where did the the idea for the radio station come?
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From, well, that came from.
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Would you feel more comfortable?
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Sitting down.
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Yeah, that said it.
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Standing up there.
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For a.
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Long time.
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You gotta stand up by the.
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What’s that trying?
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Sit right here.
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OK.
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Well, the idea came.
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Thank you.
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My husband had a bad spell, Bad heart, South African.
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From the board.
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And he was.
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Let me see now.
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He was.
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And everything that’s.
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When the radio came along, he was in bed.
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A lot of the time.
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I’m able to move.
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I thought the best thing I could do.
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Get one of these music boxes that came along to the radio to abuse them to get them going.
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I got this thing into his room and he turned it down.
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And the one thing that he heard.
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A report it hurts from the north.
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The government apparently was trying to find this young.
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Mounted police.
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As they did in the far north new space.
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They had dogs, of course.
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Had he had a big, big territory?
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Had he he had married before he went up to his wife.
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His wife was going to have a baby, so he sent her back.
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I believe it was the wrong.
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And the descended back have baby.
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Well, this report came over.
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They were hunting for.
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Up the north.
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Anybody that had?
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He didn’t miss the mail all the time because he was on the.
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This big territory and the snow traveled.
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In those days.
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No airplanes up there pretty much.
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There’s nothing like that, so.
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They were.
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That somebody would post masters and places places like that to hold them up to tell him that he had a son.
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Had it had been two years before he knew.
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That interested my husband very much, he thought how wonderful it was.
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That people could be caught that way and and.
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What a wonderful thing it would be.
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So that started his interest in radio.
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But what year was that?
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That would be.
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Knows that? Better not.
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Talk to any other.
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Device some questions to ask him when I.
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See him.
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Add the.
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Jimmy been interested in radio, not in radio, but any machinery of that sort.
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But it’s something we go wrong with.
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He takes it for his daddy.
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Anyway, this went down.
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And the.
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A fellow by the name of George Dunn.
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Had a set.
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Short ways said, I think it was.
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I’m not sure about that and there’s something something.
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To do it was a Marconi ships ready over something I believe wasn’t.
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Right.
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Well, we had we our first.
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Transmitted was.
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I believe him.
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I don’t know what it was Markovia.
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Or whether it was.
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The ships those ship rate transmitter.
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I’m not sure that, but Jimmy will search straight out there.
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George was.
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George, Doug, City clerk.
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At that time.
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You could say.
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And the.
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So he had.
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This funny little thing.
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He was.
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Put it on the church.
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I think it was the Anglican church, he thought he podcast that because they had the wonderful boys choir.
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When I got the Jimmy back on his feet again.
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Finally did.
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And he had to learn to walk again.
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Which was a trial.
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And the.
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Gunned back on the street.
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So he and George got their heads together.
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And they started to.
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Little concerts.
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Georgia’s sad to see.
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Oh, we had a lot of.
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Talent here, not a musical talent.
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Tremendous fun.
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One fellow drory price.
00:16:04 Speaker 1
If you’ve been living here.
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You’ve heard of the canvas.
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It’s just the United Church.
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Toddy Boyd.
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We called him.
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And we had this wonderful choir voice choir.
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Cracked boys cry in the attic concerts.
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So they started to.
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Alternative they put they.
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Anglicans serves one Sunday morning and then in the evening they take their little bike.
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Had that have to be changed to all of paraphernalia, it would have to be taken to the other church and this would not every Sunday.
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So that that Jim started putting on little concerts with George and he gathered up all these musicians.
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And there was a family of.
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All they played.
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Anything and everything.
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A wonderful, talented family and music.
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They used to do a lot of play.
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And then it grew from there.
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And then.
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George wanted.
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He wanted his short way because he liked that best.
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So Jim said, well, come in with me, he said.
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And we’ll start a business.
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Still, we get one of these radio licenses.
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George didn’t want anything to do it.
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He thought that was crazy.
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Little did you know.
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So, oh, we eat.
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Wasn’t interested.
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He had this job.
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And that sort of thing.
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So he went into it.
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That so part at all.
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Jim went out on his own when he finally got the license.
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I I have a business.
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So one day.
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A woman came in the perfect stranger.
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There was a boys private school in Vernon.
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And the.
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That’s where Jamie was.
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And this.
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Turgeman and rabbit.
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This every see where I have because I’m have to run off the track here.
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His the assistant, I guess.
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Was the woman that came thou?
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And she wanted to buy a business like mine.
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What sort of a business did?
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You have.
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I had the hairdressing business.
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At the time.
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The CK bill.
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And she.
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Sat with me nearly all morning, took up my whole morning.
00:20:03 Speaker 1
So she said she wanted so badly.
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So anyway she.
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I said that that and hope by night time.
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So that that’s what my husband told me.
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What happened?
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He said.
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You do just what you would like.
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So I thought no word either and before.
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Just before that.
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About 8:30 in the morning we got a wire.
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To say.
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That the license had gone through.
00:20:46 Speaker 2
That must’ve been pretty exciting.
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So then this woman came in.
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And so I thought.
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That all?
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Would I talk to with him?
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And that’s what I’m going to do it.
00:21:00 Speaker 1
There’s a new statue radio station.
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That’s good.
00:21:10 Speaker 1
That’s what happened.
00:21:12 Speaker 2
What did you feel the first time you heard your husband on the air broadcasting?
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That was the.
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Oh, I can’t tell you that because I I was in on all these.
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Can’t you see with him?
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Were you helping out to arrange things?
00:21:32 Speaker 1
No, I didn’t do anything like that.
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No, no, no, no.
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My main concern was yourself.
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That he wouldn’t overdo it because it happened again.
00:21:48 Speaker 2
Well, somebody’s got to look after, you know.
00:21:49 Speaker 2
People like that. It’s good.
00:21:52 Speaker 1
You couldn’t stop? No.
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It it will go.
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You went to all the hockey games in the wheelchair eventually.
00:22:01 Speaker 1
And they have.
00:22:02 Speaker 1
Just to go off the opposite, a wheelchair.
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They’d have to take his wheelchair and then the staff would come down and carry him up.
00:22:10 Speaker 1
It became so involved.
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He thought he could just couldn’t leave it.
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But he had a powerful voice.
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A powerful voice and they want to use it.
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In seeing live with the.
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Orchestras, all that sort of thing.
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You’re a big man.
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You weigh 225 pounds.
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Six seat.
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How many years were you married?
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So you were married?
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Just before coming.
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To the valley. That’s right.
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Like came up with my.
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My husband.
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I’ve been to the valley.
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I had been here before.
00:23:08 Speaker 2
Are there any? Are there any moments that you remember during your husband’s broadcast career that stand out in your mind?
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There were many.
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I can’t remember her other name.
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But just something.
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Before the.
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People got together.
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This, Mary, I can’t remember her name from Vancouver, but her she had a mother.
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That was that hot and and not really by your husband.
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She came up.
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And she was to see him.
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She’s heard about them.
00:24:04 Speaker 1
And she came up to the office to see him.
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Wanted to know what she he thought.
00:24:18 Speaker 1
So he.
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He told her to make up her mind and she he put her on the air.
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And went over quite big.
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And the.
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She finally found that.
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In here.
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Her little book.
00:24:42 Speaker 1
I think she spoke up.
00:24:45 Speaker 1
You just started her off on the right.
00:24:47 Speaker 1
Track to so.
00:24:52 Speaker 1
I think they collected money or something and then he started the bill from Britain.
00:24:58 Speaker 1
And then we had an epidemic.
00:25:02 Speaker 1
Of I don’t know whether it was flu or polio or something.
00:25:06 Speaker 1
And he went on the air with that every day.
00:25:11 Speaker 1
It was children because they were keeping them.
00:25:16 Speaker 1
Which would let them on the street at all.
00:25:19 Speaker 1
And he went on, and he made a program up for that sort of thing.
00:25:24 Speaker 1
And then they.
00:25:25 Speaker 1
He sat at other people often and then he.
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He went in for.
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Look for Britain.
00:25:41 Speaker 1
With something else, you would have to.
00:25:45 Speaker 1
There’s always going after something, anything through the community, you know.
00:25:56 Speaker 1
Sometimes she’s singing along with her.
00:26:01 Speaker 1
The recordings.
00:26:06 Speaker 1
Because everybody knew his voice anyway.
00:26:11 Speaker 2
What year did now?
00:26:11 Speaker 2
What year did you say you started the the New Year’s Eve broadcast?
00:26:16 Speaker 2
Because I heard several of those in which you talked to the old timers in the in the valley here.
00:26:22 Speaker 1
Oh, we started that beginning.
00:26:24 Speaker 2
Ohh, the the New Year’s Eve broadcast for the OHH.
00:26:27 Speaker 1
Right in the beginning.
00:26:29 Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:32 Speaker 2
I guess you’ve, I guess you’ve seen a lot of those old timers go.
00:26:36 Speaker 1
Yes, that’s right.
00:26:37 Speaker 1
There’s so many.
00:26:41 Speaker 1
I wouldn’t know how to, uh, what names to mention today, because I’d be frightened to see.
00:26:51 Speaker 1
Because the people that are left behind.
00:26:55 Speaker 1
Like myself.
00:26:57 Speaker 1
But I think my worst was that time that he was in hospital for so long.
00:27:04 Speaker 1
And he was very bad.
00:27:09 Speaker 1
He’d have these terrible heart attacks.
00:27:13 Speaker 1
These belt and.
00:27:21 Speaker 1
I’d be.
00:27:22 Speaker 1
He he was so bad as I tell you.
00:27:26 Speaker 1
I went to see him.
00:27:29 Speaker 1
And I went right down to the station and I thought I he always said.
00:27:34 Speaker 1
The show must go on regardless.
00:27:38 Speaker 1
Let’s go on whatever. Happy.
00:27:41 Speaker 1
What it went on.
00:27:43 Speaker 1
And I went with it.
00:27:47 Speaker 2
You were saying that your son was was involved very much from the from the beginning.
00:27:52 Speaker 1
Oh, very much.
00:27:53 Speaker 1
He was about 15 when they put up the first poles.
00:27:56 Speaker 1
They put them up in the.
00:27:58 Speaker 1
In the summer yard, I think or something.
00:28:01 Speaker 2
Down on the North End.
00:28:04 Speaker 1
Not that that far.
00:28:06 Speaker 1
Those days.
00:28:07 Speaker 1
You see the almost the center time today and the.
00:28:16 Speaker 1
Headed up the follow the road with them.
00:28:20 Speaker 1
He was always riding horses, of course.
00:28:22 Speaker 2
Was he more of a rancher at those days or broadcaster?
00:28:26 Speaker 1
Oh, he mixed them up.
00:28:40 Speaker 1
He’s always ridden horses.
00:28:44 Speaker 2
When, when?
00:28:44 Speaker 2
When the radio station was was starting up back then, did you have any idea then that that it was going to go for 50 years?
00:28:53 Speaker 1
No, I didn’t.
00:28:56 Speaker 1
I had no idea of that, so in fact I never thought.
00:29:02 Speaker 1
My mind was taken up with other things all the time and I.
00:29:08 Speaker 1
It was quite a session.
00:29:10 Speaker 1
Right the way through.
00:29:12 Speaker 1
But something I wouldn’t have missed for anything.
00:29:16 Speaker 2
Yeah, it sounds like it was a lot of fun.
00:29:19 Speaker 1
A lot of fun and a lot of grievances.
00:29:22 Speaker 1
As any.
00:29:23 Speaker 1
Business is.
00:29:26 Speaker 1
And the.
00:29:28 Speaker 1
Then when the.
00:29:30 Speaker 1
Second World Cave cave.
00:29:32 Speaker 1
Of course.
00:29:32 Speaker 1
We were all established.
00:29:39 Speaker 1
He had everything on his fingertips in you.
00:29:44 Speaker 1
So many.
00:29:46 Speaker 1
You know.
00:29:47 Speaker 1
That time.
00:29:49 Speaker 2
What did you do here during the Second World War?
00:29:54 Speaker 2
What was life like in Kelowna during the?
00:29:56 Speaker 2
Second World War.
00:29:58 Speaker 1
It was a different kettle of fish.
00:30:01 Speaker 1
Actually the that is the.
00:30:12 Speaker 1
It would mostly Canadian boys by that time.
00:30:18 Speaker 1
Because the the.
00:30:20 Speaker 1
Great many of the.
00:30:23 Speaker 1
Indian boys left here.
00:30:26 Speaker 1
For both wars.
00:30:30 Speaker 1
And they made the.
00:30:32 Speaker 1
I knew quite a few of them.
00:30:35 Speaker 1
And they were wonderful boys.
00:30:39 Speaker 1
Just wonderful.
00:30:43 Speaker 1
Our old boys were pretty good.
00:30:45 Speaker 1
You know that time.
00:30:48 Speaker 1
For the populations change so.
00:30:51 Speaker 1
So much.
00:30:53 Speaker 1
That I wouldn’t.
00:30:54 Speaker 1
I could go down the street and clone it today and.
00:30:57 Speaker 1
Not know so.
00:30:58 Speaker 1
Not even a a merchant on the street.
00:31:03 Speaker 2
I’ve only been here 10 years and.
00:31:04 Speaker 2
I can’t do that either changes.
00:31:08 Speaker 1
Let’s see.
00:31:08 Speaker 2
Yeah, when you’re the next.
00:31:11 Speaker 1
Yes, it’s changing.
00:31:16 Speaker 1
I haven’t taken right and you were talking about Black Mountain.
00:31:22 Speaker 1
Well, when I first came here, I.
00:31:24 Speaker 1
Thought it was the most beautiful.
00:31:27 Speaker 1
Sight of a mountain I had ever seen.
00:31:31 Speaker 1
Right, all the way up in this time of the year.
00:31:34 Speaker 1
When things change color.
00:31:36 Speaker 1
That whole hill used to be.
00:31:41 Speaker 1
You you’d swear that you were in Scotland.
00:31:45 Speaker 1
Looking at the head.
00:31:48 Speaker 1
Beautiful colours.
00:31:50 Speaker 1
With all pink.
00:31:54 Speaker 1
It’s sunset. Sunset was gorgeous.
00:32:00 Speaker 1
The Sun went down.
00:32:03 Speaker 1
Where we went from the.
00:32:12 Speaker 1
I think the.
00:32:16 Speaker 1
The last thing.
00:32:23 Speaker 1
Jimmy’z doings.
00:32:27 Speaker 1
There’s a little theater.
00:32:30 Speaker 1
You know, they’ve got a little theater here.
00:32:32 Speaker 2
Was that in conjunction with Charlie Patrick and those people?
00:32:37 Speaker 2
Was Charlie involved in those things?
00:32:40 Speaker 1
Oh, he used to play in them.
00:32:48 Speaker 1
Turned over the.
00:32:51 Speaker 1
A lot of time.
00:32:58 Speaker 1
Did a very good job.
00:33:00 Speaker 1
They collected our fortune.
00:33:09 Speaker 1
And that’s really a Genuity theater.
00:33:15 Speaker 2
Very much.
00:33:17 Speaker 2
The I guess you’ve seen, you know, things along the lake and changed quite a bit over.
00:33:22 Speaker 2
The years as well.
00:33:23 Speaker 1
Well, yes.
00:33:28 Speaker 1
I have.
00:33:30 Speaker 1
You see, the current has taken a change.
00:33:35 Speaker 1
Down this way, because of the the bridge.
00:33:42 Speaker 1
Has changed the current around a bit.
00:33:45 Speaker 1
And the shores are different.
00:33:50 Speaker 2
What about do you were you here when any of the the old lake boats were running the steamers.
00:33:55 Speaker 1
I came better by that.
00:33:57 Speaker 2
Oh, did you tell me?
00:33:58 Speaker 1
Oh yes.
00:33:59 Speaker 2
Tell me about the day you arrived.
00:34:04 Speaker 1
I stood on deck.
00:34:07 Speaker 1
My dad and my husband.
00:34:10 Speaker 1
And I looked down at karoda.
00:34:15 Speaker 1
And I thought to myself.
00:34:21 Speaker 1
What do we do here?
00:34:27 Speaker 1
You know, it was funny because.
00:34:32 Speaker 1
All there was was this blog Wharf.
00:34:37 Speaker 1
And good size.
00:34:38 Speaker 1
Riverboat, believe me.
00:34:42 Speaker 1
See to our boat, you know.
00:34:45 Speaker 1
And that up to the 9.
00:34:47 Speaker 2
What was the name?
00:34:47 Speaker 1
Of it, I think it was.
00:34:50 Speaker 1
The sick moose.
00:34:52 Speaker 1
And the.
00:34:54 Speaker 1
There was just another one running.
00:34:57 Speaker 1
And the.
00:34:58 Speaker 1
The time.
00:35:01 Speaker 1
And the.
00:35:03 Speaker 1
We got off the train.
00:35:06 Speaker 1
The top of the lake, just below burden.
00:35:12 Speaker 1
And you had to walk from the train to the boat.
00:35:17 Speaker 1
They got on the boat.
00:35:19 Speaker 1
And they they ran into every little place.
00:35:25 Speaker 1
All the way down, take about 3 hours.
00:35:29
No, it’s not bad.
00:35:34 Speaker 1
And the trades only came down as far as.
00:35:37 Speaker 1
Right.
00:35:49 Speaker 1
When we get down, you sat on the board all that time.
00:35:54 Speaker 1
You you have your lunch served properly and all that sort of thing and the.
00:36:01 Speaker 1
What they call Columba, I looked down, saw this long walk.
00:36:07 Speaker 1
And the start of row boats into this.
00:36:10 Speaker 1
The other side of the Wharf was.
00:36:14 Speaker 1
I guess it was a sort of a wholesale.
00:36:18 Speaker 1
Retail place for hay and oats.
00:36:22 Speaker 1
Seeds for horses and I thought perhaps I’m going to behind the horse again.
00:36:30 Speaker 1
But no.
00:36:32 Speaker 1
Of chap. Of the David.
00:36:35 Speaker 1
Frances Duncan.
00:36:36 Speaker 1
He lived in Rutland.
00:36:38 Speaker 1
He heard we were coming and he had the.
00:36:41 Speaker 1
One big car.
00:36:43 Speaker 1
So he drove down from Rutland and picked us up.
00:36:48 Speaker 1
And I I don’t know.
00:36:49 Speaker 1
They took three or four cars of that type.
00:36:52 Speaker 1
That’s all.
00:36:55 Speaker 2
Where did you know Clarence Duncan from?
00:36:57 Speaker 1
I did.
00:36:58 Speaker 2
Oh, did did your husband?
00:36:59 Speaker 1
Know him? No, no, nobody.
00:37:01 Speaker 2
So he was just being neighborly?
00:37:03 Speaker 2
Yeah, no.
00:37:05 Speaker 1
That’s how life was.
00:37:09 Speaker 1
And but he was an American, really.
00:37:15 Speaker 1
He was in Missouri.
00:37:18 Speaker 1
I’m not sure.
00:37:21 Speaker 1
It’s a long time ago.
00:37:27 Speaker 1
It was a wonderful place.
00:37:30 Speaker 1
Wonderful place.
00:37:32 Speaker 1
There you have it.
00:37:35 Speaker 2
Did you know?
00:37:36 Speaker 2
Or did you know the premier when he was alive and living here?
00:37:40 Speaker 2
WAC Bennett.
00:37:42 Speaker 1
Oh yes, they came.
00:37:47 Speaker 2
When did you first meet him?
00:37:53 Speaker 1
Oh, just after he came, I guess.
00:37:56 Speaker 2
In the 1920s, and did he impress you from that first moment, or did you, was it other later?
00:38:02 Speaker 1
On he did, he always did.
00:38:06 Speaker 1
And his wife is.
00:38:13 Speaker 1
How would I describe her?
00:38:22 Speaker 1
She’s all.
00:38:26 Speaker 1
All round she’s.
00:38:34 Speaker 1
She’s got a good brain.
00:38:37 Speaker 1
A very good brain.
00:38:41 Speaker 1
It is kindly.
00:38:50 Speaker 2
Say just the kind of woman to be.
00:38:52 Speaker 2
A Premier’s wife, then?
00:38:55 Speaker 1
She stands in the background.
00:39:00 Speaker 1
There’s no nonsense about it.
00:39:05 Speaker 2
Are there any other strong women like that that you remember over the years?
00:39:12 Speaker 1
Well, there were so many.
00:39:22 Speaker 1
So many women.
00:39:26 Speaker 1
They were entirely different.
00:39:28 Speaker 1
To the women of today.
00:39:37 Speaker 1
Great many English girls.
00:39:41 Speaker 1
Out here.
00:39:43 Speaker 1
And never really turned their hand to anything.
00:39:50 Speaker 1
And it was marvelous the way they carried on.
00:39:58 Speaker 1
I’d worked.
00:40:00 Speaker 1
Along with the manfull.
00:40:04 Speaker 1
Very often, neither one of them would know anything.
00:40:06 Speaker 1
About a fire.
00:40:10 Speaker 1
But they struggled along and it was.
00:40:16 Speaker 1
Abusing sometimes, but being a Canadian.
00:40:21 Speaker 1
I knew a little bit more about those things you see.
00:40:27 Speaker 2
What was it like growing up in Vancouver?
00:40:30 Speaker 1
I didn’t grow up there.
00:40:31 Speaker 1
I was.
00:40:32 Speaker 1
I did it for a couple of years.
00:40:36 Speaker 2
What was it like growing up in Toronto was that was where you said you were from?
00:40:42 Speaker 1
I used to burst at the seams sometimes as a young person because.
00:40:49 Speaker 1
I love the Bush.
00:40:51 Speaker 1
I’ve always loved trees and the Bush, things like that.
00:40:56 Speaker 1
And the.
00:41:03 Speaker 1
And I was at boarding school for a while, Moulton College.
00:41:07 Speaker 1
And it’s.
00:41:10 Speaker 1
They I don’t know whether they pulled them down.
00:41:13 Speaker 1
They were using it.
00:41:14 Speaker 1
As a.
00:41:16 Speaker 1
A little theater, I think one of the boys are telling me when they.
00:41:28 Speaker 1
I don’t know.
00:41:33 Speaker 1
I like the women here better.
00:41:37 Speaker 1
Because they were.
00:41:40 Speaker 1
Fear in their.
00:41:44 Speaker 1
Much more interesting.
00:41:47 Speaker 1
And I was happy I went through the England where my father went there to retire.
00:41:54 Speaker 1
But I wouldn’t stay so.
00:41:57 Speaker 1
He bought the five of us back again.
00:41:59 Speaker 1
We went to Vancouver.
00:42:03 Speaker 1
Instead of going to Toronto, we gathered our belongings up in Toronto and he said now where you want to go, I said.
00:42:09 Speaker 1
I’ll go to Vancouver.
00:42:12 Speaker 2
That must have been a big move in.
00:42:14 Speaker 1
Those days it was a big move, but.
00:42:18 Speaker 1
We came to Vancouver and we settled down there for a couple of years property there.
00:42:27 Speaker 1
Or I thought it was time my dad got busy again.
00:42:37 Speaker 1
Said we’re going to make a group.
00:42:38 Speaker 1
We don’t know where, but.
00:42:40 Speaker 1
I said we looked through the paper, so we came to Rutter.
00:42:45 Speaker 2
Where did you meet your husband?
00:42:48 Speaker 1
I met him in the.
00:42:52 Speaker 1
Office of the Commercial Printing company.
00:42:58 Speaker 1
It’s now a God, I guess.
00:43:02 Speaker 1
But it was in the South Middle time and.
00:43:08 Speaker 1
I met him there, he was editor.
00:43:11 Speaker 1
To the.
00:43:12 Speaker 1
First mortar magazine over the West.
00:43:18 Speaker 1
Deleted right.
00:43:24 Speaker 1
Add the.
00:43:29 Speaker 1
Too bad I haven’t got some of those old photographs to show you with the dish.
00:43:33 Speaker 1
You very much because the funny old podcast.
00:43:39 Speaker 2
And like this.
00:43:41 Speaker 2
Where were you at the commercial printing?
00:43:43 Speaker 2
Company that day.
00:43:44 Speaker 1
I was selling for that time.
00:43:49 Speaker 1
I was selling magazines.
00:43:53 Speaker 1
I was selling advertise.
00:43:58 Speaker 2
Did you?
00:43:58 Speaker 2
Did you ever sell radio advertising here?
00:44:01 Speaker 1
Uh, well, I did a lot of things that start off with.
00:44:06 Speaker 1
I can’t remember whether I did or not because.
00:44:10 Speaker 1
My husband used to.
00:44:12 Speaker 1
Put somebody on the board, run out and sell something.
00:44:21 Speaker 2
I’ve heard I’ve heard stories over the years about.
00:44:24 Speaker 2
Let me turn my table.